I have been a very bad chastity blogger. Very, very bad. I deserve to be punished. Severely. So…uh…wanna?
OK, maybe later. In truth, I have yet again totally ignored my DT email address and a whole lot of feedback has piled up and I truly do feel guilty about not replying. So, without further ado, here we go…
I’m considering purchasing a Looker 3 but can not find any reviews, opinions, or even pictures of it being worn. Have you ever tried a PA lock of the style before? I’m curious if it pinches or gets in the way to the point where it is uncomfortable or irritating.
No, I’ve not read or seen anything on the ‘net regarding experiences with that device. My concerns are the same as yours, though. I’d be afraid of getting pinched between the shackle and the lip of the cup at the end of the cage. It looks hot, though. When I first noticed its availability, I wrote a post about it. More thoughts over there.
Pup Colt queried:
Hi! I am looking at getting a Looker2 as my first steel device and was wondering would you suggest ordering it the way it comes? or would you suggest ordering it without the bulb on the end of the insert?
I like the bulb myself. I suspect it makes the end of the insert less likely to irritate the urethra, though that’s just a guess. Subjectively, I just like how it looks and the feel of the little bulge deep down in there. The only thing I’d change if I were ordering the Looker 02 again today (except to maybe make the cage a smidge shorter) would be to increase the circumference of the insert. I’d personally like something about 50% bigger around since I think that’d make leakage around it less likely and would allow urine to drain out of me faster. Sometimes, when I really have to go, I find the narrow tube slows things down.
K wrote a big one:
I’ve been following your blog on and off for a few years now. There is so much great info in it. I find myself returning every few months to catch up and re-reading a lot of the valuable info. Thank you for taking the time and energy to teach us Want-To-Be-Thumpers!
That’s cute. I imagine a bunch of baby bunnies hopping around.
I’ve enjoyed chastity on and off for many years now. I’ve worn only one device, a CB6000. I’m sick of it. I’m long overdue for an upgrade to a custom steel unit. I’m ready to jump off the bridge and order a Steelheart 2 from Steelworxx, but I’m terrified about getting the sizing right. I’m hoping you might help me with some advice on sizing as well as a few other random questions from your experience.
I’ve worn the CB6000 on and off for years now and feel pretty confident that I’ve found the right setup for me in the CB6000. But now I’m scratching my head for how to translate the CB6000 setup to a new Steelheart. You obviously had a learning curve with your first Steelheart so I’m hoping your experiences can help me make smart decisions. When I try and translate my current setup to Steelworxx’s offerings, I get this:
He shares a lot of measurement info…
Now that I’ve shared all that data, I’m sure you’re not interested in studying my personal measurements [don’t bet on it — T] so suffice it to say the Steelheart measurements seem to be at the large end of his range. I’m pretty average in size, certainly no monster. Since you found your first Steelheart to be too big, I’m thinking that there are some tricks to translating these measurements. Here are some specific questions I’d greatly appreciate your help with:
1. You have said that the same size A Ring in plastic and steel did not work. How much smaller is your Steelheart A Ring compared to your CB6000 size? I figure I’m between 48.6mm (CB6000) and 44.5mm (my regular cockring size).
As I recall, I was in the 45mm CB6K ring and ordered that in steel. WAY too big. I eventually settled into 40mm in the Steelheart but find the 42mm anatomical ring of the Looker 02 to be a much better fit. Remember that the size you wear in a cock ring will be much too big for a chastity device. Cock rings assume a big old erection on the other side while a device will keep that mostly in check. The less room your erection has to grow, the less room you need in the ring.
2. How should I determine spacing between the Tube and A ring? It appears the Steelheart tube is angled away from the A Ring on the underside so I’m not sure how to figure these two distances. The website doesn’t offer customization for these distances so maybe this is moot. But the Steelheart appears to have less space at the top and more at the bottom. Doesn’t more space at the bottom mean more space to pull the balls out? If this is a set parameter on the Steelheart, then do you add or subtract to the length of the tube to make up for this difference in measurement? Keeping in mind that on paper I’m almost maxed out on Steelheart length. I can’t wrap my head around this.
Sure, a bigger gap in the bottom means your balls could have more room to escape, but if you look at the Steelheart I wear now, you’ll see the gap is far too small for any testicles to get out (I assume). This gap is a function of the A-ring size and is another reason why getting that right is important. If I had to choose, I’d err on a slightly smaller ring than larger. But that’s me.
Regarding the spacing between the tube and ring, that’s a measurement I’ve never changed. In the three devices I have from Dietmar, I always went with the default.
3. The optional curved “anatomical A Ring” seems interesting to me for comfort. Have you tried this one? Any insight? It seems like if the bottom of the ring curves back against the abdomen, the space between the bottom of the Ring and the bottom of the Tube gets even bigger, which sounds bad for security.
Yep, the Looker 02 has that and I love it. If the ring isn’t too big, I doubt you’ll have security issues.
4. I’ve got a 4 gauge PA and working up to a 0ga eventually. I’m going to ask Steelworxx to modify the Steelheart with a PA slot on the tube so I can wear my jewelry through the tube to secure myself. But I’d also like to order a PA fixing so I have the option of securing inside like you.
I also wear a 4ga ring, but not with the Steelheart. I found it took too much space inside the tube and caused pinching. I wear a 10ga ring when locked up. It’s just as secure and is a lot smaller overall. If you’re going to build a slot in, my issues may not apply.
a. Sounds like your experience is that you cannot fit anything larger than 8 gauge jewelry inside. True?
Nope, I can get he 4ga in there, it’s just not as comfy. I bet I could get even larger jewelry in there, but the heavier the ring the more noise will be made as it hits the inside of the tube.
b. How much added length and diameter should I add to the Tube to accommodate the PA fixing and jewelry, to achieve your setup?
I’ve been asked this before and I wish I had a good answer. I’d say at least another 1/4″. If you’re going to use bigger rings, maybe more.
c. Really no issues with pinching inside with PA fixing?
Not with the smaller PA ring, no. Occasional. Not serious.
5. Finally, I also want to order a urethral insert for some added fun from time to time. (I realize I probably have to remove the PA for that).
a. Do you use the insert with your Steelheart or only on your Looker?
b. Any thoughts on how long the insert should be? It appears to be longer on the Looker (extends past the A Ring) then the add-on option in Steelworxx’s offerings. Is this purely personal choice or are there any security benefits?
c. Does your insert have a bulb on the end? If yes, do you like it? Does it help with leakage?
d. Does the insert have a cap to screw on the end or is it always open at the end and prone to leaking?
A) Only on the Looker 02. B) Dietmar’s default on the L02 worked well for me. It could be a bit longer and still work. I’d be careful going too long. C) See question above. I do like the bulb. It may help with leakage. D) The insert on the L02 I wear is integrated. No screw (literally).
I’m very sorry this came out so long. Hopefully you didn’t get bored after the first paragraph because your insights would help me feel much more comfortable before throwing down hundreds of dollars. Thank you very much for sharing your experiences with all of us and being such a fantastic source of info.
And now I feel especially guilty for not answering your questions in a timely manner.
I was reading some of your blogs on the MM Jailbird cage and had a couple of questions in regards to the sizing. Just hoping you could help out if you’re not too busy.
I noticed you’ve used the single round ring, double round ring, and oval ring. I’m torn between the double ring and oval ring. I’ve never had an issue wearing a round ring with previous devices (CB6000s, Jailhouse), other than some mild chaffing. Which is most likely because the rings weren’t a custom fit. So I’m not too worried about that happening once I get the correct measurement. I’d like to know if you have any feedback in regards to which ring you’d recommend and/or prefer.
Also, if I end up going with the double base ring I thought I read somewhere that it adds an extra 1/4″ to the length. I plan on getting a proper length measurement and subtracting 1/4″ (MM recommendation). Should I take an additional 1/4″ off again to compensate for the double ring?
I have a double oval ring on the Jail Bird and recommend it. The oval shape leaves room for tender bits and the double width means less “cutting” by the ring (their default width is too narrow, IMO). The double ring does indeed add a bit of length (you probably read that here) so do cut that back from the overall length you order.
I have a CB6000 and am planning to buy a MM JB. One question I have is about the base ring. Can you leave it on, while removing the cage, and then have sex? I’m a bit worried that blood will not flow back if the ring is kept in place. The idea just seems interesting: quickly remove the cage and don’t bother about the base ring. Have sex (but probably no cumming) and then put the cage back on. Do you have any experience with this?
Yep, I’ve done exactly that. The JB ring is about 3mm smaller than my normal cock ring size so the extra constriction isn’t really an issue. You have to remember to rotate the ring upside down so the post doesn’t poke your keyholder (then it sits under your balls but I didn’t have a problem with that).
Hey, I have read your blog for about three weeks now. First of all, you are very articulate and I can tell that you obey your wife and want to be obedient to her. You are doing a great job and it shows. My Master who I signed a contract back on May 3, 2014; requires that I not have an orgasm. This is very hard to accomplish. I have not been faithful to Master and had four since the order was issued. The most recent was after going two months with an orgasm. I have been instructed to finger my boi pussy any time, I need to obtain pleasure or get horny. Master doesn’t want to put a cage on me, because I am married and have kids. The longer I go without having an orgasm the more difficult, it is with me not cumming. I will make this work. We are back to the beginning and will work hard to obey my order. I have also been ordered not to play with my dick or get it hard.
Extended, unsupervised denial without a device is incredibly hard for me. It’s hard even to obey her rule about not playing with it. I don’t really know what to say that can help you except I totally feel your pain. It’s all about willpower and the one place most men experience the least amount of that is between their hand and their dick, especially when they’re horny.
My advice would be for your Master to let you play with yourself on occasion for a specific period of time (say, five minutes) as long as you promise not to come. That might help a bit. At least then you’d have some outlet for your built-up desires. Alternatively, you could have an extended heart-to-heart with your wife and tell her what you’re doing, etc. It would be a lot more enjoyable, I bet.
An anonymous reader wrote:
First of let me say how useful your blog has been about male chastity. My wife and I are new to this world and we for one are glad about this blog existing – there are many aspects to this experience and you express them well, both the fun times and the not-so-fun times (like the “No then Yes” post). Good job!
I came across your site first thanks to the ever useful “tips and tricks for the cb6000” page. That page helped a lot for the initial introduction to wearing a cb6000. In fact, I think that page ultimately convinced the wife to go ahead with the purchase of the device.
But as I mentioned, we are very new to this. In fact, I think we have only had the device for a month now. And here is where I turn to your advice once more. I am able to wear the cb6000 throughout the day with no problem. In fact, it is so comfortable that I sometimes don’t even realize I am wearing it. We are able to go out, ride bikes, do groceries etc all without incident. This is of course fantastic as I did not expect it to be so easy. But the real issue comes in at night when I try to sleep with the device. I have tried this 4-5 times and it’s a real pain. Like literally a pain in the sack (pun?). This happens almost immediately once I start to lie horizontally, either on my back or on the side.
I know you have written about this in the tips and tricks page – I have tried those suggestions but still with little success. Here are some details: I am currently on the second smallest spacer but still the largest ring. Most of the pain I feel is at the base of the ring (the A ring?) kind of like a burning sensation. Initially it is ok but as the night wears on it gets worse and worse. Like I can’t sleep and need to get up and sit somewhere (the pain is much reduced then but it does not go away instantly). I do put silicon based lube on the A-ring and that helps. But perhaps I don’t put enough lube. I don’t think that I get really strong erections at night because I don’t ever feel “full” in the tube. Right now we go 2-4 days without me cumming so it’s not like I have been starved for weeks. I never have the biting pain near the base of the penis where the tube starts. Perhaps most importantly, I sleep in some shorts that are meant for runners. I usually wear pretty tight briefs but started sleeping without them as I thought that was part of the problem. But as you mentioned, now things just flop around and that may be part of the issue. Sleeping naked did not work either; that was a bad idea.
As you can imagine the biggest danger of unauthorized “action” is likely to happen when the wife is fast asleep. So far no incidents, but 2-4 days is easy going. 5 days was tough for me (damn you Barbara Bermudo). But besides for that, I want to be locked up for her with the key around her neck, because that is so hot. And she obviously likes that too.
That’s tough. I can tell you the CB6K ring is a bitch and I recall being in a lot of pain sometimes as well. The more lube, the better, I found. Moving to steel resolved nearly all the kinds of issues you’re describing, though a certain amount of them are unavoidable. An in between measure would be looking into the Holy Trainer. MUCH more comfortable ring, IMO. Also, with time, your scrotum will stretch out. That will lead to fewer ball sack problems.
Some men I’ve heard from and whose accounts I’ve read never figure out how to handle the nocturnal wood in a CB6K. It’s not the end of the world, though I understand where you’re coming from.
I had read recently on a blog that the cb3000 had a larger ring (not shipped initially). If you contacted the company they would send it to you. I wonder if the same is true for the 6000? Apparently 2 mm does matter (hah, another pun?).
I don’t know anything about that. As far as I know, the only rings available for the CB6K are the ones packed in with it.
I am not sure if there is any advice you have but I thought I’d try anyway. It’s much appreciated.
Thanks a lot for this blog and taking the time to write solid material!
Vicky wanted to know:
I stumbled across your blog when someone left a review on lovehoney website about the cb6k and said they had recently been reading your blog. Curiosity got the better of me, so I started reading and then I was hooked! I decided the only way to fully understand the situation, was to read from the beginning. I am currently at August 2010 and obviously have a long way to go!
You might cover the following questions/comments in later blogs so I apologise in advance if this is the case!
1. I noticed Belle had answered a few questions in the blog and I was wondering if she has done anymore blogging? I would love to hear more of her views, sort of a he said/she said type of thing.
She hasn’t. Alas. But stay tuned. Developments developing on that front, perhaps.
2. Have you written any more porn? I read the hotel room one, where you described a situation in which you were exposed in front of a window. I really enjoy your style of writing and your way of describing situations, that make the text come to life.
I have, but I haven’t finished any of it or published it. I have more ideas than time and writing it while locked up and denied is unexpectedly difficult. I get too worked up to think straight.
3. Have you got any tips for complete beginners, starting out experimenting with chastity? In my relationship, I think we would both enjoy taking turns being a top and a bottom but are unsure how to take the first steps. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Whew. Big question. For a guy, I’d say get a Holy Trainer and have fun. Take baby steps at first, don’t worry about doing it “right” as long you’re both enjoying it.
4. I just wanted to say I am thoroughly enjoying reading the journey of discovery that both of you are on. I also want to say ( as I have seen you post that a large percentage of people are not bothered by HNTHUMPER) I really enjoy seeing these pictures, please continue to post them 😉 I completely agree with Belle, when she said the steel heart looks better. For something made of metal, I strangely think it looks really natural.
Thanks! Speaking of dirty pictures, I posted this to Tumblr today. Not full-on filth, but close.
Would you ever consider broadcasting on Skype or Cam4 and have Q&A conversation about chastity. Not a broadcast showing nudity or body parts… legit chastity Q&A?
You mean like a broadcast to a large audience? I can’t say I have thought of it, but I wouldn’t be opposed, I guess. The main issue would be protecting Belle’s privacy, of course. I wonder if there would be any interest in that kind of thing (he asked unselfconsciously).
That’s all I got for now. Again, apologies to all for the long wait.