Please don’t kill someone

On Saturday, I wrote on Twitter:

Because, essentially all the people (north of 99%) being hospitalized and dying of Covid in the United States are unvaccinated people. Another datapoint:

Regardless, I was sent this news item from someone on Twitter. The lede:

Johnson & Johnson’s Covid-19 vaccine may trigger a rare neurological condition in a small number of people who receive the vaccine, the Food and Drug Administration said Monday.

Reports to a database operated jointly by the agency and the Centers for Disease Prevention and Control suggest there may be a link between the inoculations and Guillain-Barré syndrome, a form of progressive paralysis that is generally reversible, the FDA said in a statement.

EGAD! But wait.

The agency said there have been about 100 preliminary reports of GBS, as the condition is often called, in people who have received the J&J vaccine. To date, about 12.8 million doses of the J&J vaccine have been used in the United States, suggesting a rate of about one case of GBS per 128,000 people vaccinated.

So, to be clear, an otherwise levelheaded and reasonable person is using as a justification for not getting or delaying vaccination against coronavirus as soon as humanly possible this ridiculously rare side effect in the middle of a pandemic which has already killed at least 600,000 Americans and probably a whole lot more.

Note that many vaccinations can trigger Guillain-Barré and that it’s always very rare and nearly always reversible. Also note that the previous issues with the J&J shot and blood clots was actually far less prevalent than blood clotting issues in women who take birth control.

Please learn to adequately evaluate relative risks.

It’s hard to estimate what the chances are any given American will get Covid because the variables of where they live (and therefore how much they benefit from the vaccinations of their neighbors) and how they live (can they work from home? do they go into environments where a lot of people congregate in close proximity? have they literally not opened the door for another human since March of 2020?), but I can say with some certainty that the odds of an unvaccinated person in the United States getting sick, becoming hospitalized, and even dying of Covid are a damn sight higher than 1/128,000. Like, a magnitude higher.

I am assuming anyone making the “it hasn’t been proven safe” argument isn’t also some kind of deluded, brainwashed, partisan conspiracy theorist because if your assessment of the risk/reward balance of being vaccinated includes any mention of Bill Gates or 5G or the letter Q, you need to stop reading this and seek professional help immediately. Honestly, you’re are a goddamned delusional and are a threat to society and those around you.

Not getting vaccinated because you think or fear there’s a snowball’s chance some kind of ultra rare side effect will strike you down is simply the most selfish and antisocial decision you could possibly make. Because it is a certainty that if you do not get vaccinated and then catch and spread Covid, you are killing someone. Some immunocompromised person or some other dimwit with comorbidities who likewise made the wrong choice will die from the disease you spread. The only hope you have is that it’s not someone you know like a parent, partner, or child.

So I don’t take back my original tweet. Not at all. I might allow a slight revision to say if you don’t get vaccinated in the US and are eligible (i.e., old enough, no pre-existing conditions, etc.) you are acting like a moron. A selfish, unable to properly evaluate risk, moron. If that makes you feel better.

But Jesus fucking Christ people, get your goddamned vaccination already.

9 thoughts on “Please don’t kill someone

  1. I’ve had GBS and still suffer the consequences. But there are a hundred easier ways of getting the random disease than through covid19 vaccination. Thump on, Thumper!

  2. PLEASE KEEP YOUR POLITICS OUT OF THIS…..DON’T TRY TO FORCE FREE PEOPLE, HEALTHY PEOPLE TO INJECT AN EXPERIMENTAL CHEMICAL INTO THEIR SYSTEM ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF ALL THE FLAWED SCIENCE AND CONTRODICTIONS, ME THINKS THEY DO PROTEST TOO MUCH AGAINST THOSE UNWILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS EXPERIMENT. GO TO HELL WITH YOUR GUILT AND FEAR MONGERING. JUST SAYING, I BELIEVE NOTHING THAT COMES OUT OF LOS ANGELES.

  3. Also worth noting that GBS warning is specific to the J&J vaccine. If you don’t trust that one, that’s still not an excuse. Find somewhere near you offering Pfizer or Moderna instead.

  4. Been vaccinated since April, no issues. Also haven’t caught COVID. Weird how that worked out.

  5. what about the rest of us they dont talk about that have had covid already. I had it 8 months ago and I tested high for the antibodys last week. Why should I get the vaccine at this point. But nobody ever talks about us its just the ones who got the vaccine. Im not against vaccines its just the left doesnt include us in the people that have antibodies. Maybe people should stop harping on us.

    1. You must get really dizzy with the whole world revolving around you like it does.

      Can you read yourself? I mean, does your probably clinically diagnosable persecution complex allow you to hear how you come across to others?

      First off, this isn’t left vs. right. This is life and death. Science versus vs. ignorance and conspiracy bullshit. Get your head out of your ass and see things for what they are.

      Second, and not even touching on the CDC’s advice for people who’ve had Covid and the need for vaccination (spoilers: they think you should), the point of this post and vaccination in general is to STOP COVID FROM SPREADING. Period. Not to “harp” on poor little you. Gosh it must be so hard to be harped upon thusly.

      News flash: There are other people in the world. Try and remember that.

      1. Well said Thumper. It has nothing to do with politics, just about caring about others and stop being egocentric.

        On a side note, it amuses me when an american says “the left” when mentioning democrats, since any non-american earthling would consider, say, Bernie Sanders as barely centre-lefty… Or when the word “marxism” comes from people who have no clue what it really is. Like, you know, everything they don’t like must come from the evil russians ! 😀

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